AL ‘ARSH: THE THRONE

AL ‘ARSH: THE THRONE 1 of 3

A man asked Imam Malik (died 179AH): “How did Allah make istiwa’ on the throne?” Imam Malik inclined his head and was silent until the sweat of fever covered his brow, then he looked up and said: “Istiwa’ is not unknown (WELL KNOWN) (ghayru majhul), the modality of it is inconceivable in the mind (al-kayfu minhu ghayru ma`qul); but belief in it is obligatory (imaanu bihi wajib), and inquiring about it is a heretical innovation (bid’ah). You are an innovator.” And he gave orders for him to be taken out. “And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days and His Throne was on the water, that He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds” [Hood 11:7]. Qataadah said: Your Lord, may He be blessed and exalted, is telling you how His creation began before He created the heavens and the earth.  Tafseer al-Tabari, 15/246

Bukhaari : ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) said that some of the people of Yemen asked the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) this and said: We have come to you to ask you about this matter. He said: “There was Allah, and there was nothing else besides Him, and His Throne was over the water. He wrote all things in the Book (in heaven) and He created the heavens and the earth.”

Both the verse and the hadeeth are speaking of the beginning of creation, and say that the Throne of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, was over the water before the creation of heaven and earth. This does not mean that the Throne is not still over the water. Al-Bukhaari  & Muslim :Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Right Hand of Allaah is full and (its fullness) is not decreased by any spending; it is overflowing by night and day. Think of what He has spent since He created the heavens and the earth, but all this spending had not decreased what is in His Right Hand.” He said: “And his Throne is over the water, and in His other Hand is the power to bring about death, and He raises some people and brings other low.”

Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allah have mercy on him) said: In the report of Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh it says “and the Throne is over the water.” The apparent meaning is that it was like that when the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) spoke these words. The apparent meaning of the hadeeth which comes before it is that the Throne was over the water before the creation of the heavens and earth, and the two hadeeth when taken together indicate that it is still over the water. End quote. Fath al-Baari, 20/496

The meaning of the word kaana (was) in the verse refers to what happened in the past, before the creation of the heavens and the earth. From his saying in the other hadeeth, “His Throne is over the water,” it may be understood that it is still like that.

One of the supplications of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was that which was narrated by Muslim (2713): “Allaahumma anta al-awwal fa laysa qablaka shay’un, wa anta al-aakhir fa laysa ba’daka shay’un, wa anta al-zaahir fa laysa fawqaka shay’un wa anta al-baatin fa laysa doonaka shay’un (O Allah, You are the First so there is nothing before You, and You are the Last so there is nothing after You. You are al-Zaahir [the greatest and highest] so there is nothing above You, and You are al-Baatin [aware of the subtlest secrets] so there is nothing closer than You).”

Abu Razeen said: O Messenger of Allah, where was our Lord before He created His creation? He said: “Nothing existed but Him, with nothing beneath Him and nothing above Him. Then He created His Throne above the water.” Narrated by at-Tirmidhi (3109), Ibn Maajah (182) and Ahmad (15755). This hadith was classed as saheeh by at-Tabari; as hasan by at-Tirmidhi, adh-Dhahabi and Ibn Taymiyah; and as da‘eef by al-Albaani in Da‘eef at-Tirmidhi. It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) say: “The throne of Iblees is on the sea and he sends out his troops to spread mischief (fitnah) among the people. The greatest of them in his sight is the one who causes the most fitnah.” (Muslim, Ahmad). Is  Iblees (shaytan) still alive and is it true that his throne is over the sea ? Tap link https://islamqa.info/en/10034 .What is the difference between Arsh and Kursi of Allah ? The Kursiy is the footstool of the Most Merciful, according to the most correct of the scholarly opinions on the matter. The ‘Arsh (Throne) is the greatest of all things that Allaah has created, over which our Lord rose in  a manner that befits His Majesty. It has pillars and is carried by bearers who are angels of immense size. It is held up by His might and power not by the powers of the angels tasked to bear it…to be count

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